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	<title>Comments on: $47 Per Lead&#8230; No Problem &#8211; NOT!</title>
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	<description>Anthony Kirlew&#039;s Internet Marketing Blog</description>
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		<title>By: oldschool</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolseo.com/2008/08/18/47-per-lead-no-problem-not/comment-page-1/#comment-16102</link>
		<dc:creator>oldschool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmy, 

A great way to make your point is to educate, not try and insult. I am not sure you made a point other than that you don&#039;t understand the intended message.

This was simply a discussion of the difference in spending money on leads vs generating your own leads vs. PPC.  Sure, you can spend $47 to generate leads to make large sales - I get that, although I would be curious to know how many people search the web to find a vendor for a $10 Million boat - those are usually relationship based sales.

Trust me, a high percentage of the people that sell leads are generating them online. I know because I have been one of them in the past. People who get on board with generating their own leads through SEO and PPC will have margins - always.

Take a deep breathe and enjoy life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy, </p>
<p>A great way to make your point is to educate, not try and insult. I am not sure you made a point other than that you don&#8217;t understand the intended message.</p>
<p>This was simply a discussion of the difference in spending money on leads vs generating your own leads vs. PPC.  Sure, you can spend $47 to generate leads to make large sales &#8211; I get that, although I would be curious to know how many people search the web to find a vendor for a $10 Million boat &#8211; those are usually relationship based sales.</p>
<p>Trust me, a high percentage of the people that sell leads are generating them online. I know because I have been one of them in the past. People who get on board with generating their own leads through SEO and PPC will have margins &#8211; always.</p>
<p>Take a deep breathe and enjoy life.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Trimmel</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolseo.com/2008/08/18/47-per-lead-no-problem-not/comment-page-1/#comment-16035</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Trimmel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is silly. QUALITY matters. As does price. 

$47 per lead for a child who might want a matchbox car...

$47 per lead for an wealthy person interested in spending over $10 million on a boat...

Clearly a difference, reducing this to clicks or whatnot reveals your ignorance of sales. Go back to programming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is silly. QUALITY matters. As does price. </p>
<p>$47 per lead for a child who might want a matchbox car&#8230;</p>
<p>$47 per lead for an wealthy person interested in spending over $10 million on a boat&#8230;</p>
<p>Clearly a difference, reducing this to clicks or whatnot reveals your ignorance of sales. Go back to programming.</p>
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		<title>By: oldschool</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolseo.com/2008/08/18/47-per-lead-no-problem-not/comment-page-1/#comment-6709</link>
		<dc:creator>oldschool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Carlos - You make a very good point. I don&#039;t have all of the figures they used for their PPC and yes there is a clear difference between a site visit and a true lead. I just know what I could produce lead for. The even bigger problem is that the site would NEVER convert near 13% and the proposal also quoted ROI based on closing 80% of their &quot;leads&quot; which I thought was very overstated.

My primary point was to make sure people are aware of what they are paying for, especially when &quot;investing&quot; nearly $10,000 per month in an online marketing campaign with little knowledge of the process.  I am a huge advocate of consumers being educated in SEM so they know how to make the right decisions. That thought scares some SEM providers because it makes them accountable, but I believe it builds better client relationships.

Thanks for your input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Carlos &#8211; You make a very good point. I don&#8217;t have all of the figures they used for their PPC and yes there is a clear difference between a site visit and a true lead. I just know what I could produce lead for. The even bigger problem is that the site would NEVER convert near 13% and the proposal also quoted ROI based on closing 80% of their &#8220;leads&#8221; which I thought was very overstated.</p>
<p>My primary point was to make sure people are aware of what they are paying for, especially when &#8220;investing&#8221; nearly $10,000 per month in an online marketing campaign with little knowledge of the process.  I am a huge advocate of consumers being educated in SEM so they know how to make the right decisions. That thought scares some SEM providers because it makes them accountable, but I believe it builds better client relationships.</p>
<p>Thanks for your input.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos del Rio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos del Rio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony,
I understand that you don&#039;t want to share a lot of details, but this is a bit inflammatory. When you say leads do you mean visits?

I think there are plenty of businesses that $47 per LEAD is well within margin. Under the scenario above you are saying PPC $8 per click so $47 lead is about 13% conversion -- thats pretty good in some verticals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony,<br />
I understand that you don&#8217;t want to share a lot of details, but this is a bit inflammatory. When you say leads do you mean visits?</p>
<p>I think there are plenty of businesses that $47 per LEAD is well within margin. Under the scenario above you are saying PPC $8 per click so $47 lead is about 13% conversion &#8212; thats pretty good in some verticals.</p>
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